and among african americans so how does barak about his election as u. s. president change the social political and cultural landscape joining us from scottsdale arizona grant hill of the n. b . a . 's phoenix suns in new york author and black entertainment television correspondent parade in here in washington university of pennsylvania professor the former u. s. civil rights commissioner mary frances berry i want to thank a preview for spending time with us on a sunday morning because frankly as much as i might understand politics there are parts of this i simply cannot as a white man understand grant let me start with you it was starting this week to watch so many athletes as you know you are the role models for many children white and black and brown across america but especially in the african american community athletes are role models because for the longest time there was a ceiling on how high blacks could go in politics what does this mean well in it means a lot you know and personal i was is inspires well to see so many athletes come out and support and i think the last ten fifteen year and athletes have a really participated and to see guys come out it and who played a part in the political process the you know i fund raiser speak at rallies was really good to see from media as as a colleague of many of them but it 's great image very inspiring we we need examples we need role models not just as is athletes not just is n't taylor 's doctors lawyers and yes now even as a president so offer my daughters to be a winner to grow up in their lifetime know that hey maybe one day i could be president is inspiring would also very challenging as well the on that play mary frances berry grass is he could not tell his daughter 's you could be president i 've states every parent wants to tell that to their children ten years ago five years ago five months ago was at a reasonable thing for an african american parent to say their child reasonable to say that ten years ago it is reasonable now and we have n't changed america post racial america will know that at the end of the bomb a presidency when he 's been in office for eight years one of the world 's has changed for ordinary african americans and other people of color whose lives are not affected by discrimination and we have more opportunity and the rest will know that then but it 's definitely a changed america and it changed not just be because oh mama it change because of all the things he came before him including the popular culture what we see there and including in politics all the people even the republicans let 's give them some great colin powell and condoleezza rice and you can go on and on and so the opportunities there is changed america in terms of race but what its post racial will have to see what half but the two rate let 's fall on that point in terms of how the society changes brocco bomber did not talk about race a lot during the campaign what is his responsibility now in your view to address these lingering questions were the lingering challenges lobby barak changes black in america just by the way he lives and by not making race the main thing i mean race in this candidacy was sort of a grace noticed secondary thing complimenting his intelligence is intense dignity his grace to use the word again the thing is that the black male school has been about rebellion because this country 's been so hypocritical to black men into black people in general not extending the full promise of american opportunity inequality liberty to us and now we can look out and say hey we are full parts of this country now we can be unmitigated lee proud to be americans you know as we michelle ababa said you know i 'm just now being proud of this country she was airing a black private conversation in public in a lot of black people not in and say yeah i know what you mean in that cognitive dissonance that we felt not being able to be fully proud of the country and remembering the things that would happen to us in our i mean diallo and on we can feel proud now you know we can feel full parts of the american dream now and that 's going to unleash the soul and change black america completely grant has anything changed already decides that brought a lot of won a huge the station made history broke a barrier but on the streets of american specifically in the streets of black america taking different today than it was on tuesday morning before the election oh i think so about about i mean there 's a appeal in a pride i think in black america really in all of america but really in black america primarily as a lot of what tory touched on to have somebody who ran a flawless campaign who every attack that was aimed at m. just handle himself will grace and dignity as a know that hey we have somebody like ourselves someone who is us resolve us in the ultimate leadership position in our country that is as fire and certainly the last four five days i 've been on the basketball as a black american that everyone out there feels like while this this you know we 've come a long way and that this is a surprise since george what if they ask if you ask what is happening on what the people on the streets and and communities is the mother and the doctor 's office the other day who said to her little kid who came out crying because he got an injection you should n't cry like that shot up you know the rocco mama had to go to a lot more than that and he went so what do you complain about a cut and mothers on across america like others will be saying that to their sons and to their kids and so what we have to see is what the impact is the role modeling is there but we have to see what the influences on ordinary african americans that 's what i meant when i said we 'll know after it 's over how much impact it is really get them done not i wanted by can send a question to grant because i 'm sure that grant hill knows that blackmail authenticity especially in the n. b . a. has really been located in people like well tattoos rugged rob rebellious bowl and grant hill has been the opposite of that fortune five hundred father speaks perfect english you know not rebellion but now the nature of blackmail authenticity past expanded to include barak oklahoma grant hill tore ray cornell west michael eric dyson so do you feel a new sense of of belonging in the black male authenticity sweepstakes that 's a really good question you know i think i think to a degree i think you know certainly the perceptions of the black male have been you know sort of that will go use the november values side that rebellious angle and certain intervals of examples of that in professional sports but also just in an american general and certainly bomb or has come out senator for president elect a bomb has come out shown that you know getting an education you know speak in part ring was whatever it always to