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Late Edition With Wolf Blitzer CNN (CNN)National Programming, DMA: 0 Nov 16 2008 12:01PM EST Programming Type: Talk Public affairs Est. Households/Views: 1025447 Est. Publicity Value: $7369 (30 Seconds) $103166 (Total)
>>> barack obama considers hillary clinton for secretary of state. as he prepares to meet with john mccain. is the president-elect assembling a team of rivals. we'll assess the transition to power with three of the best political team on television. "late edition" second hour begins right now. >>> welcome back to the second hour of "late edition." this was another awful week for the u.s. economy. thousands of layoffs were announced and more industries are appealing to washington for billions of dollars in bailout. clearly, there are going to be some tough choices face be members of congress when they return to work this week. let's get a preview of what we can expect. joing us from our new york bureau, the democratic congressman charlie rangel, chairman of the powerful ways and means committee and here in washington, tennessee republican
congresswoman marsha blackburn. she serves on the house commerce committee. thank you for coming in. let me start with congressman rangel. we heard in the earlier hour of "late edition" that carlos gutierrez, the commerce secretary, speaking on behalf of the bush administration, now says they support a bailout, if you will, of the auto industry but only if the money comes from an existing legislation, $25 billion from some energy bill that passed last year that you'd have to reprogram but doesn't come from that $700 billion bailout for the financial sector. is this something you can deal with this week? >> just talking about it is some relief because while the emphasis has beb on bailing out the banks, we represent the people, and the banks seem pretty comfortable in trying to find out which way secretary paulson is going. but in terms of the people looking for jobs, losing their jobs, i think just discussing how we're going to handle general motor and the 1 out of 10 jobs that will be lost if they go under is something we can talk about. >> all right. let me play the clip for
marsha blackburn, congresswoman. here is what carlos gutierrez, speaking for the president, said in "late edition" in the last hour. >> what we are proposing, and we have a solution, 2007 energy bill, there is a section, section 136, that made available $25 billion of loans for the auto industry so that they can retool for cars of the future, for fuel efficiency initiatives. that bill, that section can be reworded quite readily and that money can be made available to auto companies that can prove that they are viable or that they have a plan for viability. >> so what you're -- >> all right. what do you think? are you with the president on this one? >> well, i would have a lot of questions about this. you know, we hear a lot about bailing out detroit, but for me it's also about spring hill, tennessee. and i don't want any ofmy constituents to lose their job. i do have great concerns about just blanket bailouts. what secretary gutierrez is talking about there is section 136. that is of the 2007 energy bill that was passed. the money is there to take care of retooling to meet cafe and energy efficiency standards. there was also money for r&d for next generation automobiles, the lithium-ion battery, things of that nature. we would have to look very carefully at that. because what we've been hearing from the auto industry is they want not only that $25 billion fast tracked to speed up that innovation, but they were wanting an additional $25 billion to handle their legacy costs. >> they probably, charlie rangel, they would probably like $100 billion if it were available, why not? what do you think about this notion of at least -- letting them use that $25 billion to get themselves out of this financial -- this financial mess they're in right now? >> i'm suggesting that it could make a heck of a lot of sense, make certain the automobile industry will be following a new tract, that we're able to be competitive, that we're not talking more about the same thing. but i am so pleased that the administration is taking advantage of this one last week we have to talk about the safety and the opportunities of people who are employed. >> is it possible, do you think? you know the legislative process better than anyone, congressman rangel. is it possible to pass this, what the administration wants, to retool, if you will, the $25 billion from the energy bill this week, pass it in the house, pass it in the senate, let the president sign it into law? can it be done this week? >> it could be done ppt problem we have is still in the senate up. recognize we need 60 votes in order to stop filibusters. it's been abundantly clear that the republicans in the senate have not been willing to consider anything in order to have this administration have some type of transition with the next one. we won't be taking up anything unless we have agreement from the senate they're willing to pass something rather than give hopes to people and don't do anything at all. >> what do you think, congresswoman? >> the democrats control both sides of the hill. and they can pass whatever they want to pass. >> in the house they k but in the senate you need 60 votes to get through a filibuster. they don't have the 60, they have 51. >> being one that has voted against the bailouts, i think what we need to do is put everything on the table. we know there are a lot of just-in-time suppliers and manufacturers that are around these auto plants. we need to look at suspending cap gains. we need to look at what would happen if we had sales tax deductibility, which has -- we have in tennessee, we deduct that from our federal income tax filing. what would happen if you were to deduct sales tax from everybody's federal income tax filing and give consumers an incentive to go buy? >> ask the cham of the ways and means committee. he's responsible for writing tax laws in the united states. what do you think of that idea, congressman? >> any idea that's going to bring relief to the american people instead of just the bank executives is something we should talk about. i don't know whether we have enough time to have hearings on all of these things, but i do believe that the congresswoman is right, we can't just throw the money out there. the question is, if the president wants to talk about this, he has to talk to the senators to make certain that we do have enough votes there to pass it. and that's where we ought to be talking about, not our differences, but how can we get out of this congress -- we got just one more week to go, and give some relief to the people who are unemployed, be able to protect some of the people from this terrible winter we're going to have, to give something in health care, and to make certain we bring some stability to employment. these are the people that are crying for some help. and so we can discuss all of these things, but we won't be
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